tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post5706916440518000088..comments2023-08-06T23:20:53.640+08:00Comments on e c o w a r r i o r Z: PRIVATISATION - OR - PIRATISATION?Mary Maguirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05464072807689747202noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post-51637950051040198222012-01-12T21:45:00.252+08:002012-01-12T21:45:00.252+08:00Great to know that people are gaining some awarene...Great to know that people are gaining some awareness on waste management in Malaysia. Currently, the government lack of expertise in waste sector. There are huge potential in recovering renewable energy from MSW in Malaysia with biological treatment and then thermal treatment. People have overlook the importance of biological treatment as our MSW is high in food waste, as recycling is quite rigorous here, typically driven by informal sector. Government has to formalize/regulate the recycling activities and encourage the growth of bio-treatment such as composting and anaerobic digestion. Landfill is required for residual waste and inert waste. Hence, source segregation is a really important element in waste management. Privatization can be done but NOT with 3 concessionaires only and should undergo competitive tender process. Federalization is in dispute and my opinion is forming of waste collection & disposal authority for regulation rather than fully federalize (at the end of the day, SWM is a "very" local issue). The four incinerators are all provided by a same company called XCN technology sdn bhd and it is a costly option and still not operating until today. RRC/RDF in Semenyih s step forward but there is potential to increase the energy recovery with bio-stabilization instead of using dryers. The cost-effectiveness is depended on various variables (incentive, tax, subsidy, etc) which government can regulate (eg. landfill tax in UK, FiT for biogas, etc). Everything has to begin with the citizen to segregate their waste and LA to improve collection efficiency. people negative perception on waste has to be changed and government has a role to play. hence, i am doing my best to contribute to the waste sector development in my beloved country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post-61220774812240781632012-01-01T09:49:01.557+08:002012-01-01T09:49:01.557+08:00Happy New Year everyone.
ecowarriorZ: You are spo...Happy New Year everyone.<br /><br />ecowarriorZ: You are spot on. Thanks.<br /><br />Further, as articulated in the article, I agree we are in the dark age in so far as proper waste disposal in Malaysia is concerned. Why? Are we kidding to benchmark our best practice to Planet Malaysia (plain jagoh kampong) or some other light year Planet Zimbabwe - no disrespect to Zimbabwe? Who knows, they could be better..One generalization from me..which suggests that there is no real leadership or perhaps sincere honest wills by the people who're supposed to manage it... right from the 60s right to a decade after the new millennium. With due respect, I'm not suggesting a kind of slumbering on the job..<br /><br />William Wang: Argument noted. You are right on who would like to live in a hut instead of a mansion if the price of both is the same? I guess the real issue embedded here is of comparing RE Pricing vs so called cheaper non-RE (e.g of energy source: gas-fired Power Plant in Malaysia) [Energy in landfill is a "sunk cost"...don't take it seriously,though)] and henceforth justification for benchmarking our best practice to only what are alternatively cheaper (which could be landfills or others) is not analytically proper. It's plainly clear that it's not an apple to apple comparison because we know how distorted is the Tariff (e.g. gas pricing) in Malaysia - we have i guess to our "benefit" as much as 70% subsidy. Thus, I submit that the WtE energy cost comparison is not a simplistic WtE Vs Landfill. Perhaps. it should WtE or RE Power tariff vs undistorted fossil-fuel tariff in so far as energy parameter is concerned. But from proper waste disposal perspective, it should be further guided by best practice principle on "what should be done".<br /><br />Well generically, I guess for what should be done then is that we need to go back to the basic first principle. We should apply best practice principle at both macro and micro levels. Certainly, we can use it to determine the right composition of our national waste disposal asset mix and at micro level to apply best practice when we are designing and operating landfills and similarly for WtE.<br /><br />Henceforth, the way to go is to seek best practice (including the word "sustainability") and benchmarking to the better guy in every domain of our life. It's not a rocket science, everybody knows this. Perhaps, just look south at Singapore: We have education, they have education. We have waste management, they also have waste management. But see the different..their deliverables and outcome compared to us. The Malay said... langit dan bumi..<br /><br />OMG, Bless Malaysia in this new year 2012...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post-31295597331878280512011-12-31T14:59:54.176+08:002011-12-31T14:59:54.176+08:00Posting up in SAMPAH as usual without your permiss...Posting up in SAMPAH as usual without your permission.zorrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07541853781206395661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post-84389943678576655742011-12-31T09:25:58.617+08:002011-12-31T09:25:58.617+08:00You have conveniently neglected the cost of energy...You have conveniently neglected the cost of energy in your WTE vs landfill. We would have preferred you to give us the cost comparisons instead of the mumbo jumbo of just a well written article. Who would like to live in a hut instead of a mansion if the price of both is the same?William Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05891033857097142276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post-24132305668778567862011-12-31T00:22:20.717+08:002011-12-31T00:22:20.717+08:00I agree anonymous, we do need both. I believe that...I agree anonymous, we do need both. I believe that up to 80 percent of co-mingled garbage can be recovered with existing technology but the 20 percent balance still needs to be sent to a sanitary landfill. However this material is inert so does not pollute the environment and if we recover 80 percent of all our waste just think how much longer the landfills will last.<br /><br />The whole history of incinerator commissioning and buying needs to be investigated in my opinion... very foggy.ecowarriorZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post-44257277031221538822011-12-30T21:53:41.232+08:002011-12-30T21:53:41.232+08:00Well, a subtle argument for wte. Yes, indeed, it&#...Well, a subtle argument for wte. Yes, indeed, it's high time. But Wte vs landfil is a false choice. You need both.<br /><br />On the other hand, does anyone feel that it's time for the Government (read:JPSPN) to come clean on the actual performance of current batch of mini incinerators after such a long delay for completion, and the actual operational reliability of Plants (believed yet to be reliably run for a long period)and of course the cost of recently issued O&M Contracts for these incinerators.<br /><br />Plus there seem to be many rumors being circulated around on these mini incinerators commissioning things...which perhaps MACC should...do something as suggested in this excellent article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post-57826558975021133032011-12-30T21:24:40.571+08:002011-12-30T21:24:40.571+08:00Thanks Pak Hussein, I'm honoured.
James: I t...Thanks Pak Hussein, I'm honoured.<br /><br />James: I think the waste to energy plant in Semenyih is a big step in the right direction. It was the work that these guys are doing that got me excited about waste management in the first place. <br />From my perspective this versus dumping is a no brainer. <br /><br />I know there are many critics of the Semenyih plant but when you take a look at who they are they usually end up being members of the cartel and so have a vested interest in keeping the status quo.<br />Would be interested to hear your opinion if you feel like sharing.ecowarriorZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post-7276999784709263712011-12-30T20:48:04.274+08:002011-12-30T20:48:04.274+08:00An extremely interesting article. But what are you...An extremely interesting article. But what are your views on the Resource Recovery Centre/Waste to Energy facility in Semenyih?Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1251936018525038960.post-27119357328131283342011-12-30T20:12:36.114+08:002011-12-30T20:12:36.114+08:00Hi...good article and should be shared with others...Hi...good article and should be shared with others - posted on my blog.<br /><br />http://steadyaku-steadyaku-husseinhamid.blogspot.com/2011/12/privatisation-or-piratisation.html<br /><br />thanks.<br /><br />HHSTEADYAKU47https://www.blogger.com/profile/07409192122374446741noreply@blogger.com